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Rialta remodel

I bought a 1996 Winnebago Rialta to live in starting when the lease on my house is done at the end of May. Obviously Tynan was an inspiration in the sense that I would never have considered an RV if not for him, but long before he and I reconnected I'd always taken the stance that I would live in the smallest living space possible as long as I had a great kitchen.

So, when I was looking around at apartments in Seattle's Capitol Hill recently and dreading moving into a lousy studio in some nice building's basement with an electric stove and a crummy refrigerator, I thought, wait a minute, Tynan's got a great kitchen in his RV. Time to put my money where my mouth is.

I've done a fair amount of work on it. The Community section of tynan.com is a perfect place to log this stuff. I'll post some status here in a minute.

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OK, a long-overdue update. Here's the kitchen; it's pretty close to done, with a bunch of loose ends to tie up. I just put in the under-cabinet LED lighting today and got it wired up.

What I did, in total, to the kitchen: I removed the existing Rialta kitchen and replaced basically everything except the plumbing and wiring. Wenge countertops (wax & oil finish so I can use the whole surface as a cutting board), Norcold DC fridge, new cabinetry I built mostly from pine and plywood to try to keep it light, Ramblewood Green stove, Houzer sink, some faucet I got off Overstock, soap dispenser, water filter system, new backsplash, and LED strip lighting under-cabinet. Still todo: magnetic spice rack, over-stove light fixture, knife magnet bar, under-sink shelving, over-stove pot hooks, paper towel dispenser, and lots of miscellaneous stuff.

Long shot of the kitchen. LED lighting doesn't work well with my iPhone camera so it looks oddly purple.


Nice big drawer. The stock one is miniscule and has really low sides so it's easy for things to fall out of it. When I removed the old kitchen I found all sorts of junk spatulas and stuff on the ground that had fallen out of the drawer.


Under-sink cabinet is much bigger. Shelf peg holes are drilled on both sides but I have to mount the water filter and figure out other stuff (probably hiding the solar controller & inverter in the small space at the bottom) before I can cut the shelves to fit.


Sink area, with drop-in cutting board out of the way. You can see the wood grain here and the way I packed all the faucetry stuff in the back there (it's a snug fit.)


LED strip under the cabinet. I just ran it back and forth with 90-degree folds at the corners. White duct tape holding it flush for now, though I'll need a better solution (probably wide staples or something) or eventually it'll peel off. This is first-pass. Works well, though.


I ran the power for the LED lighting at the back up into the cabinet. Just wrapped the wires together with the little controller wires, heat shrink & electrical tape to wrap it up. Again, white duct tape will have to be replaced by little plastic bracket or something, the tape'll peel off in a day or two I bet.

Inside the top cabinet. Wire comes up from LEDs, purple and green are power, and the wire running out the right is the IR receiver for the remote which I mounted on the side of the cabinet. The little controller comes in a plastic box with a DC coax connector; I removed the box and soldered the power wires straight to the board so I could use those spade connectors you see there instead. As always, the white duct tape makes it look extra professional.

I'm going to just mount the remote on the side of the cabinet and cover the space between it and the IR receiver so it's just like a permanent switch mounted there. I'm doing this because I'll have other LED strips in the RV and I don't want the under-cabinet lighting picking up signals from the other remote. I pretty much always want the under-cabinet lighting to be the same warm white color and only use it when cooking.


There's the lighting on. As before, it interferes oddly with my camera so it looks crappy in this shot. In real life it's a nice warm white light.

And one more shot. It's nicely low-profile, I'm really happy with how it came out.

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Looks great! I love that last shot with the matrix of LEDs under the cabinet. I never really thought before about how space efficient these strips are. It's really only a matter of time before both of our RVs are totally wallpapered with them.

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The only thing about them is they have such a high LED density, and each LED is really three of them, that you can actually start to spend real power running them. It's like 0.24 watts per LED triplet, with like 15 of them per foot, so that's actually ~30 watts per strip, right? Isn't that about the same as the fridge, averaged out? I guess it's only ~3 amps, but if I were running like five of those strips that starts to get kind of serious.

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It's way less when you dim them, though...

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So far I've rebuilt all the kitchen cabinetry, replaced the counters and desk with exotic hardwood (wenge), upgraded the sink and stove (same stove Tynan got, different sink), put in a water filter tap, soap dispenser, etc. And today I finished putting in the cork flooring. The kitchen countertop is covered in tools since I still haven't screwed the counter itself down, but I'll get photos of it later.

For now, here are some photos of the floors!

This is just everything cut to fit and set there. The vertical pieces siding the 'foyer' are just sitting there in this shot. I decided to do everything cork rather than make the foyer floor out of something more durable because I like the look, and I'll get one of those insanely durable ultra-thin rubber work mats for the foyer for when I'm lugging heavy scrapey-bottomed stuff in and out.


And here's later; I've got the siding pieces glued and held in with what you can see is a sophisticated, professional clamping system.

I may have to get some kind of trim for the edges - you can see how the side pieces show an edge which has some gray stuff - hardiplank or whatever that stuff is - in there. If it bugs me I'll cover it with a little matching-color right-angle trim cap.


And finally a closeup of some of the flooring. This is engineered cork, obviously, it's strips of it laminated together. I love the way it looks. It's nice and soft and springy but very durable. I had cork floors at my last apartment I rented, or else I'd assume they'd absorb water and shred easily. They don't, they're great.


All told, tearing up the carpeting and putting in the cork took two full days of work (spread across a few weekends.) Putting the cork in took twice as long as removing the carpet, I think. Cutting the strips to fit the weird angled edges and stuff was what took most of the time.

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Oh yeah, and because I will now take any opportunity to make a Sketchup reference, here is a screenshot of my Sketchup model that I used to lay out the flooring cuts on the full sheets of cork.

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I don't really think I need to say this, but this is complete madness. If you eventually go crazy and become a weird hermit, I guarantee you that 99% of your day is spent making sketchup models of everything.

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a) It's a great tool for making efficient use of limited materials.
b) You're just jealous.
c) To many people, moving into an 85 sq ft 1996 Winnebago is sufficient proof of going crazy and becoming a weird hermit. Glass houses, my friend.

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Looks awesome! Glad you went with dark cork... I think it looks a lot better than the regular orangey stuff. Actually, our floors are pretty much the same color, now.

I had one exposed edge on the shower pan covering piece, and I just painted it... was surprised how it made it just disappear. You might try that, too.


Why did you do the grain of the foyer perpendicular to the rest of it? That's the one bit that looks a little strange.

BTW, two random RV living improvements I've stumbled upon in the past week:

1. You can use the big mirror as a white board for todos. I got these dry erase markers that are magnetic, and I keep one next to it. 

2. I bought an orchid at the farmer's market, and now instead of smelling a little bit like dirty clothes and whatever I cooked last, the RV smells like sweet ambrosia of the heavens. 

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The opposing grain thing in the foyer was pure convenience - it meant I could do it with two pieces using simple cuts versus three with more work. It's not that noticeable in practice, at least not to me.

Good call on the paint, I'll give it a shot.

As for the orchid, that is an awesome idea. Of course, since I'll have two cats with me they'll probably eat every plant I put in there within a few days. I'll just have to make sure I don't bring in plants that are toxic to cats, like lilies.

Or maybe eventually I'll change it up and start deliberately bringing in lilies.

Awesome call on whiteboard markers on the mirror! I'm thinking I might try the slate blackboard paint on the cabinet doors, too, because (a) matte slate would look way better than the cheap wood veneer and (b) blackboards are awesome.

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I say go with the lilies, but you know how I feel about these things.

I was going to go with blackboard contact paper, but then I realized I'd be getting chalk dust all over my bed and kitchen. The closet door would be a good place for it, though.

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Can you keep the RV cool enough for the cats during the day? Specially when you are not in it to keep an eye on the rising temperature inside. Have you come up with any cooling solutions?

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It hasn't been a problem. The solar panels cover most of the roof, and have air between them and the roof, which seems to help a great deal with the heat. Plus there's 1" of insulation in the shell of the RV and hot days are also infinite electricity days so I just leave the vent fan running on high speed.

I live in Seattle so we're talking 90s for hot days, not 100s or 110s. That would be rougher. It seems at this point most of the heat comes in from the moonroof and that part of the roof that isn't covered by solar panels. If it became an issue I'd probably get something reflective to toss over that part of the roof.

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Curtains & Door Update

A while back I made a front cabin curtain and rear curtain. The rear window curtain is easy, just a big hemmed rectangle with a top pocket for a rod. The front was harder. We ended up making them out of three panels - one for driver's side door, one for passenger's side door, and one for the front console & windshield. I mounted mine with strong magnets (the MAGCRAFT neodymium magnets from Amazon that Ty mentions in his RV book.)
Here's a quick shot. (The upholstery on the seats is the last remaining Bauhaus upholstery in my RV, I've reupholstered everything else with it on it, and seat covers are en route. Yeah, it's bad.)

I also made a blackout curtain to match that fits much more snugly up against the windows. I made this curtain deliberately draped. The nice thing about using magnets is the curtains can just stack - if I want the blackout curtain on, I can then put this curtain on top of it and the magnets just stick together in a stack.

The reason I'm posting this update now is I finally got around to making the two remaining curtains, for the kitchen and door windows, this weekend. For the other windows I got the JC Penney day/night blinds Ty recommended, but for the kitchen and door windows I thought curtains made more sense, and gave me a chance to use the weird gray damask cloth again which I like.

I didn't have a sewing machine this time so I made them almost entirely with fusable interfacing, which I've never used before but is essentially a roll of 1/2" material that is iron-in glue; you put it between two pieces of cloth and iron it with a wet cloth on top and it glues them together. Useful for doing hems and whatnot.

I had to hand-finish the pockets where the magnets went. So for a simple rectangular curtain, the piece of cloth was basically a fat "capital I" shape, if that makes sense. Here's the finished thing:

You can see the stitching where I hand-finished it. There's a magnet in that little pocket. Here's what it looks like on the kitchen window:

I made matching blackout curtains, again. I just attached those magnets with JB Weld - you can see it lying on the counter in the lower right of the above photo - because I was too lazy to sew pockets onto that cloth (which doesn't need hemming or anything, so I avoided all sewing for them, they were easy.)

As for the door, we took the screen door off recently and it looked much better without it, except the interior material is the same speckly beige as the walls, and there was some water damage to the material at the bottom of the door so it was warped and folded. So I painted it clean white to match the kitchen cabinetry, and then used the leftover kitchen backsplash material (patterned aluminum sheeting from Home Depot) to add a kicker panel for aesthetics, which also conveniently covers the water damage. I think it looks great!

And one final shot - that door with the curtains on. I made them as big as possible so they block visibility from the outside and so the blackout curtain gets a good seal.

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Calling Ty's attention to this reply: here's what I did with the door & door curtains. Like I said, JB Welding the magnets to the blackout cloth didn't really work, it keeps coming off, and unfortunately I cut it close enough the magnets have to be right on the edges, so I still haven't quite figured out what I'm going to do about that. Probably a little pocket like on the other curtain but I'll have it wrap around the edge and sew both sides together so the magnet can sit right on the edge. But hand-sewing is hard - especially when it has to be tough enough to stand up to those magnets pulling apart over and over - and I'm lazy, so I haven't done it yet.

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Yep... forgot that I had seen this. Funny, I'm sort of antsy to get back to SF, mainly to do RV projects like this one. I still think I might go with a day/night shade to keep the look consistent.

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I actually bought one for it that I didn't end up using because I wanted to get the curtain fabric print in more places inside, and I threw the box for it away so I'm stuck with it. Want it? I can just send it to you.

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Ahh, I appreciate it, but I got a different color than you.

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Brian and I spent a good chunk of Sunday hanging out in his Rialta. Seeing what he's done is definitely inspiring for the work I'll be putting into the 1995 Rialta I acquired 3 days ago.

The stock configuration in mine feels very claustrophobic, which Brian's, even though it's loaded with a garage's worth of tools, totally overcame. Moving forward, getting rid of that feeling will be the primary focus of my work.

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Awesome RV! Definitely making my RV bug grow. Also cool use of Sketchup. I actually created an entire permaculture design including house once in it. Surprisingly easy to use.

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Wow this is awesome Brian. I also have a 96 Rialta although a different floor plan. I'm going to have to steal some of these ideas.

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Got around to dealing with the upper dome. I'm 6'4" so after Ty told me you get almost an inch extra headroom by taking off the inner dome (there are two, which would never have occurred to me for some reason) I knew I wanted to leave it off. I also knew I wanted to run an LED light strip around it to illuminate the dome and cast a nice light. I did both tonight.

I just ran a strip of painter's tape around the wall of the inner dome and used that as a guide for cutting it, so it sticks up, whatever painter's tape is, two inches or so. I cut into it initially with my Dremel & cutting wheel just to give me an opening to get my jigsaw in. For lack of any plastic-specific blade I just left the 'fast wood' cutting blade on and that seemed to work fine. Throws off tons of little plastic shrapnel, though.

Then I experimented with placement for the LED strip and settled on the inner dome, facing out, about 1.5" up on the side. That looked best of the positions I tried.

It looks pretty good. You can tell if you look right at it that the inner dome is just cut down as trim, you can see the line where it's cut, but it looks fine to me and gives me the nice finished inside edge but also the extra headroom.

Total time was only like an hour total including wiring and whatnot, this was an easy project.

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Nice! The molding idea worked better than I expected... I'm going to have to do that, too. I love how much more light comes in during the day.

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Yeah, to be honest the trim edge is more visible in person than in the photos, but I think the dark strip of the LED light makes it moot, i.e. if there's anything I'd get rid of it's that dark LED strip silhouette. I tried putting the LED strip on the bottom of the trim piece, facing straight up, but the problem is you can see all the individual LEDs since it's right up against the plastic that way, and since my moonroof is not perfectly centered (that's an understatement), one side is much further from the cut ceiling edge and casts a lot of light, and another is basically smashed right under the metal ceiling edge and casts almost none.

Overall, though, those are minor quibbles - I think it looks fantastic. And it was very easy to cut with the jigsaw (and I recommend using the painter's tape, that was a super easy way to get a clean line a consistent distance up.)

Only thing left now is I want to put this particular LED strip on a switch of its own so if I want to be discreet while street parking I can have the valance and counter strips on but not have the moonroof glowing like a beacon summoning all nearby police.

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Pretty awesome. You're like a modern day renaissance man: hacking and construction skills. Hope to make some money soon to do a custom v1n Sprinter chassis RV. I think having some mechanical know how will round me out as a person. Everyone knows that fixing the sink turns the ladies on.

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You do learn a ton of cool stuff building an RV, but if you want mechanical, buy a moped. It's the simplest vehicle engine out there, which means that you can do all maintenance yourself. I went from having no idea what a carburetor was to being able to disassemble the engine and replace the piston. 

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There's a good lesson in there that you got sucked into with baby steps. My dad is super good with mechanical/construction stuff. I wonder how many nerds have dad's that were mechanical/electric/construction nerds.

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Cool video about health speaker Craig Sommers and his stealth custom Sprinter van!!! This is what I want to do!!!

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Whoops! Here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hkZVYUP7OI&list=UUHj2dFjbWB8a2sm1EsHgEPg&index=1&feature=plcp

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Wish I could fix posts I posted recently...

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Yeah his setup looks pretty sweet. Starting with a gutted Sprinter van and building it out front to back instead of putting things side to side makes it feel a lot less like a hallway.

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The sprinter is such a beautiful chassis, my only problem is how narrow it is. But it's nice and tall for tall guys like me. It'd be interesting to try doing an RV full custy sometime.

As Ty says below, though, the problem with the mechanical stuff is you need SERIOUS equipment and tools to do real work on a car. My boyfriend's super into cars and does a bunch of stuff on his own, but some of our friends, one of them works for Boeing and both have machine experience and they have an engine hoist and stand for their cars, and replaced the head gasket on their Subaru engine themselves... it takes a full shop to do that kind of thing. And that's to say nothing about the work you need a lift for. At that point you're either renting time somewhere (no idea what kind of place could rent time on a lift to a random uncertified human, either) or you're a millionaire who owns a full auto body shop for kicks.

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Hopefully I'll be the millionaire with a body shop for kicks lol.

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