EDIT: I have no idea why this post is so popular. People love to read about it and flip out because I said that I am "basically a vegan" even though I used to eat raw fish every couple weeks back when I was a raw foodist. A few things to make clear:
I love doing stuff that normal people don't do. Especially stuff that seems crazy but is actually really good for you. Let's add another one to the list - eating raw eggs!
Being a raw foodist, the only "meat" I eat is the occasional fish. That basically makes me a vegan. The biggest problem with being a vegan is that you naturally don't get enough B12.
"But what about the vegan animals?" you might ask. Well, most herbivores actually consume a lot of bugs when eating plants. Those bugs provide the B12. Without B12 you can get depressed lose your energy, or become a hideously deformed troll (just a guess).
I was researching ways to get my B12 without taking a supplement (I've never swallowed a pill before in my life), and I found a site about eating raw eggs. It turns out that salmonella bacteria only cause a problem in people with weak immune systems. Why do people have weak immune system? Because they don't consume enough bacteria.
That's right... Bacteria (in proper doses) is good for you!
In fact, if you build up a reasonable tolerance to bacteria, you all but eliminate your chances of contracting disease in foreign countries by drinking the water. Thus, the benefits of eating raw eggs is two fold.
I don't remember why, but you only eat the yolk, and not the sac that holds the yolk. If you start out eating too much, you will get sick (just temporary, not a big deal), so you start off with half a teaspoon for a week, and then a full teaspoon, and then one yolk, and then two yolks. Two yolks gives you the full amount of B12 that you need every day, and more doesn't really provide any benefit.
Interestingly, the reason that most people eat yolks isn't for the B12 or the bacteria. They consider these to be side benefits. Most people eat yolks because doing so is apparently excellent for your skin.
Luckily for me, my friend Kristin has a chicken coop and is going to give me some really fresh eggs. Until then I decided to just get the best ones I could from a store.
Tonight was my first try. I cracked the raw egg at my desk, poured the white into a cup and stared down the yolk. All my years of being warned not to eat raw eggs were coming back. I poked into the yolk with a spoon and got a little more than half a teaspoon.
Hesistantly I sipped the yolk. Wow! It's actually pretty good. It tastes like a custard that isn't very sweet and is thicker than I expected. After I finished, I found myself wanting to eat the rest of the yolk, but I'll stick to the recommended amount for a while.
I'm pretty psyched about this new development. A lot of animals eat the raw eggs of other animals, so it stands to reason that I would too. Who knows? Maybe I'll be chasing down gazelles by next year and eating huge chunks of their flesh with my bare teeth. I mean... I wouldn't predict it necessarily, but then again who thought I'd be eating raw eggs?
I'll continue to eat cooked eggs sunny side up, because it deactivates avidine which causes us to lose the biotine. Raw eggs are obviously going to contain a little more vitamins and protein, but you have to also remember that cooking it makes the eggs protein more available. This is all according to studies I have looked at on the internet, but I don't feel like telling what sites :P.
I am an omnivore. I get my panties in a bunch when people who eat meat or fish or eggs or milk call themselves vegan because it misleads other people into thinking that one could actually be healthy and be a true vegan. All the true vegans I know are 1. not true vegans 2. f'ing crazy and on drugs and not really true vegans. I aspired to be a raw food vegan for several years, being completely strict for several months at a time and I was 1. crazy 2 depressed 3 absolutely starving and cold!!!!
Now I am 60 % vegan. The other 40% is animal products!
It is ridiculous to call oneself ANY % vegan, as if it were some sort of accomplishment to get the number lower or something. It is a 100% pipe dream to try to be vegan. It almost killed me. And yes I "researched" the heck out of it and did it right. The only problem was is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to do right!
Try raw, grass raised, organic, animal products which actually help cure and prevent disease, unlike the regular store bought animal products which are as bad as the John Robbins and Robert Cohens of the world say they are.
Of course I am not anti vegetable. It would be great if the general population ate more vegetables. It would also be great if they ate more CORRECTLY raised animal products instead of the "death on a stick" variety available in most stores.
Im another one of these 'vegans' that occasionally eat some fish. I also eat turkey on thanksgiving.
Never any chicken
never any red meat
no direct dairy products (cheese/yogurt/milk)
**I eat deserts on occasion with milk as an ingredient**
I consider myself a 'vegan' for simplicities sake (makes life at resturaunts easier and the endless questions from typical meat eaters, usually end quick when I say Im a vegan).
I don't know about Tynann, but I don't really care about animals more or less than a typical hamburger eating american. It's just irrelevant to how I eat.
So for all you peta lovers getting your panties up in a bunch over someone calling themselves a vegan when they eat fish like once a month...
Relax. Go chew on some carrots.
No one's posted in a year! I must fix it!
I eat raw vegan foods a lot. I find that they are more colorful and appetizing, and I feel much better after eating them. However, I have always been a bit leery about going completely vegan, mostly because strict vegans have a reputation of being 1) Preachy, 2) Condescending, and 3) Judgemental, emphasis on the mental. Of course, I live in Southern California, where vegans run rampant in the streets.
I'm also not willing to completely give up a lot of the cultural dishes I love that remind me of home, animal products and all. I've grown up eating raw eggs at least a few times a week. My mom's Japanese, and raw egg over rice was a cheap, affordable and delicious dish that I've been eating since I was maybe 3, and I never got salmonella. PROOF THAT YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT JUST DROP DEAD IF YOU GIVE THEM RAW EGGS. Japanese eggs are beautiful - they're so deep orange and rich! We made that raw dish using conventional rather than organic free range eggs after moving back to America when I was 7 - still never got sick.After being diagnosed with diabetes at 17, I had to give up my favorite dish because I couldn't have the rice, and I had no other ways to eat the raw eggs I loved. (The Japanese have one other dish I know of where you dip thinly sliced meat in raw egg and boil it for about 5 seconds, but most people reading this probably don't do the meat thing).
It's funny - I found my way back to the raw food diet because after years of struggling with high blood sugar, a week of raw carrots and beets seemed to bring it down to pre-diabetic levels without medication. Since that worked so fantastically, I'm exploring other raw food options, and I'm so happy to come across these egg recipes that I never knew about! I tried raw eggnog last night, and it was one of the best things I've ever had. Matterfact, I'm going to make more right now.
The thread continues! Why not?
I was vegan for a couple years, about a decade ago. True vegan, uptight about it too.
Lately I refer to my diet as "mostly vegan and mostly raw". Occassionally I'll eat cooked food and/or animal products--never touch proccessed junk however. Unless it's that or starve. I eat more fruit than anything else--and I feel awesome.
Had my first raw egg today. It was fun to approach that taboo and yuck factor--and overcome it.
Lets keep this thread going pimps and hookers. Egg whites are anti-nutrient even though they have protein. I like getting my yolk fix by making a sunny side up egg on extra virgin coconut oil and eating just the hot liquid yellow yolk. Ever since the gov had fastfood switch to vegetable oils have you seen how heart disease is still on the up? Vegetable oils are not stable at high temperatures like EVCO which the body can also break down more easily. Ask a chemist!
lol u have a teaspoon of egg yolk and u say u could b chasing down bears or some shit next yr.... dude u sound like you have some serious thinking to do about ur sexuality, lol theres some sick twisted people in this world... but at just for the recod i still hate the media more then you
I find it hilarious that people are still commenting on this post... Holy shit:
a) This post is over 3 years old
b) He is an honest-to-god vegan now
c) I can't believe you are all wasting time and intertubes on this.
Ok, I officially LOVE raw food. I started eating raw about five weeks ago, and have been 99% raw since (my trespasses? a tiny brownie, a few sprouted grain english muffins, and a stupid eggplant pizza). Let's do the math on this baby :
First I ate 100% of whatever I wanted. I loved fried foods, desserts, and pizza. Thanks to miraculous metabolism, I never gained too much weight. Then I read Fantastic Voyage : Live Long Enough to Live Forever, hacked away at my diet, and cut out probably 70% of the foods I used to eat. Later I researched more and cut out 90% of those foods, leaving me eating about 7% of what I initially ate. I wrote a book called The Skinny Snob about that. Going raw eliminated at least 70% of those foods, so now I'm down to about 2-3% of the foods I ate a year ago. Based on my daily diet I would consider that wholly accurate.
Now... that is a wild change. Especially coming from me. I would constantly mock anyone trying to go on a diet and explain that you should just eat whatever you wanted. No amount of logic would get me to change. What did get me to change was my inclination to try things for 7 or 30 days, and the accompanying drastic results.
I grew up not wanting to eat animal products and feeling like a freak because of it... It seemed wrong, aren't animals living beings, just like us? I am from TN, I knew where animals and animal products came from... Yuck! Why did people want me to eat that stuff? Good for me? It'll make me grow big and strong? Gross, I didn't want to eat it! Was i the only one who felt this way? Was i as crazy as everyone made me feel? Finally at age 6, living in CA I had a conversation on the city bus with a sweet vegetarian hippy lady. She agreed with me, who would want to eat cute little animals, or big animals, any animal... At last, I saw I wasn't the only one! And that day i added a new word to my growing vocabulary, vegetarian (it would still be years before i learned what vegan was) My mom tried being vegetarian for awhile around this time, it was cheaper for a single mother in the early 80's! It was great, while it lasted... Then for the rest of my childhood I had to listen to adults tell me all the reasons I needed to eat animal products to be healthy. I struggled with my weight for a couple of years as I fought eating meat by eating sweets, it was that or not eating at all. Once I hit my teens, I protested meat almost completely, i was a very unhealthy vegetarian. As a teenage girl, attending modeling school, my eating habits ranged from binge eating to starving myself. I tried to keep my fat intake to under 10 grams a day, per the recommendation of one of my instructors... I had a terribly unhealthy diet, and although I was just over 100 lbs and a size 1 i still saw myself as a chubby little girl (never understood the 'too skinny' comments)... Throughout my childhood, I had a health condition that was growing worse and worse. I had come to view the pain I had as a normal part of life, not realizing what a high tolerance of pain i have. By age 15 I started collapsing to the floor occasionally due to pain, my mother dismissed as stress. By age 17, my senior year in high school, I had moved away from home and began seeking medical advice. My condition was becoming debilitating, I collapsed frequently, symptoms and pain increased on a daily basis. I was misdiagnosed for almost a year! My dresser was covered in bottles of medication, for conditions I didn't have. Doctors would be unable to diagnose me, so they'd treat me for a common issue... What the hell??? It was then that I discovered i react to pretty much every prescription med out there, in the worst possible ways... I went from feeling terrible to wishing i was dead at times! i didn't want to leave the bed. i would attempt to go to school and i'd go running from class nauseous from my morning meds, sometimes i'd collapse on my way to the restroom... I missed a lot of school my senior year... I made it through a few days, but i'd usually collapse at least once. Thanks to an amazing counselor I was able to graduate, my teachers weren't always so understanding about my absences. At age 18, fresh out of high school and very frustrated, i had seen countless Drs, been to the ER, clinics, Urgent Care... No one had any idea what was wrong with me, i was very scared as well... At last, i called my aunt and as we talked SHE diagnosed me with endometriosis. Both she and my grandmother had suffered from it. She had multiple miscarriages due to it, both her and my grandmother had to have an emergency hysterectomy performed after the birth of their 2nd child. Although I had all new fears, i also was relived to know what i was facing. I headed to the library (this was pre-internet) and began researching. Everything I read said to avoid animal products. See! I knew I shouldn't be consuming animal products! I had yet to hear the term 'Vegan" at this point. I attempted to clean up my diet and i found a Dr who actually listened to an 18 year old girl who walked in and said I have endometriosis, what can you do about it? Although there was a bit of a chuckle as he asked why i thought this, he listened... He then scheduled a laproscopic surgery immediately. After the surgery, at my follow up appt, I was shown a video of my surgery. He was amazed I had been able to function at all, my condition was advanced to the point of a lady in her late 30's who had gone untreated all her life... The surgery gave me a clean start and I tried hard to eat healthy. My doctor told me I should try to become pregnant as soon as possible, what??? I was 18 and newly married, and so not ready for kids. He informed me if i waited until i was ready, it could be too late and he said no one is ever ready. I was told that i would most likely need a hysterectomy by age 30 and probably would not have children. I have never liked being told i was unable to do something... Within a year i was pregnant and I felt great while pregnant as well as while nursing, my 2nd child was born when my oldest was 2 1/2. I was able to stay pain free for years! When my 2nd son was about 2 1/2 my pain began to return. I considered becoming part of a test study they were doing on endometriosis, so glad I didn't. i once again tried to clean up my diet, it wasn't easy. My husband was a meat eater and we were living in TN, none the less I tried. My health wasn't great, but I was able to cope. I became pregnant again when my second son was 4 (told you I don't like to be told i can't do something!) I did not continue to eat very healthy... I tried and I cooked a lot, i love to cook! But I also loved sweets and comfort foods, i could spend all day baking. Plus i was still in TN, not eating meat = FREAK! I still tried, and I continually tried to educate myself. No one ever seemed to approve, but i knew that I needed to eliminate animal products from my diet to have optimum health... by the time my daughter was 2 1/2 symptoms were returning... When she was 3 i was put on birth control pills, a common treatment which always had ill effects on me... Within a month i had developed a double pulmonary embolism (I had a massive blood clot in the base of each lung!) I was lucky to be alive... The next few months were hell... I became pregnant again within 5 months of the clots, i was suddenly high risk. They wanted me to give myself injections of blood thinners multiple times a day... anyway, back to CA doctors who didn't view me as high risk and a smooth pregnancy (free of meds!)... I knew I had to change something and really get healthy. I went completely vegetarian before my 4th child turned 1. Within 2 years after that i became vegan. Vegetarian wasn't good enough and even going vegan didn't help... 5 years ago i was bed ridden and getting worse all the time, i couldn't even take part in my children's life. on top of that, i had just gone through a divorce after 14 years of marriage, so i was a single mom, bed ridden... life was not looking good... Luckily I had the internet and met the people I needed to meet. i discovered soy duplicated estrogen exactly! Yikes! that was pure poison to my body and i had been consuming high quantities. i hated soy, but like meat, was told i needed it. I cut soy out, went all organic and continued to research... i now eat primarily raw vegan.
My life has changed considerably... i went from bed ridden 5 years ago, to now working sometimes 7 days a week up to 18 hours a day, and have never felt better! I am a single mother of 5, I own an organic vegan cafe, i absolutely love life and look forward to all that the future holds for me! 5 years ago i feared i had seen the best years of my life. I now know they are still yet to come, for life just gets better all the time...