Check out the tutorial at http://dotsies.org
I did the whole thing and can read in it now. I love the idea of fully converting my computer over to it for higher information density,and so that no one understands what I'm reading or writing.
Let me know if you finish the whole tutorial. It's really well paced!
Dvorak and Dotsies, a match made in heaven.
I have switched to DVORAK already after reading Tynan's post about DVORAK. Now, I'm thinking on mastering Dotsies.i
It, indeed, would be a match made in heaven. And will be really hard to decipher for any normal person.
I've been a dvorak user for about 5 years. I'm a big fan. It didn't speed me up all that much, but finger strain went way down, due to less movement.
Btw, I was able to get dotsies on a Kindle Paperwhite by following http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2346392 and using the fonts at http://dotsies.org/kindle-paperwhite/
Has anyone become proficient in dotsies? Like... can anyone read faster than baseline in dotsies?
I think that the most efficient way to do this would be to setup a 1,000 word anki deck of dotsy words along with the English word. But, I'm not sure you'd ever beat your native language score. Would be a fun test.
Once you get reasonably good at it, reading stories might be the best efficiency / fun trade-off. In practice, reading several words in a sentence isn't much different than looking at several words that come up on flashcards.
What do you mean by "baseline"?
The speed at which they read regular latin alphabet text.
Btw for those of you using it, you should try out the latesthttp://dotsies.org/Dotsies.ttf
font. It has more space between words (equivalent to 3 chars instead of 2) which I think makes it easier to read.
I measured my speed just now - the fastest I got up to was 200wpm, but was able to do 175wpm fairly consistently (assuming no proper nouns or obscure words). That's probably somewhere around my normal reading speed, but that varies depending on what kind of thing I'm reading. My max normal reading speed is quite a bit higher, of course.
Not too bad. Not fast enough that I'm willing to invest the time to actually get good at (I would go cold turkey, which would be pretty intense), but I love the idea and I'm hoping to hear in a year or two that people can read it really quickly.
It's hard to say for sure how it'll pan out over time, but I'm optimistic. Keep in mind we've been exposed to hundreds or thousands of words per day, often every few minutes throughout the day. When using your computer and phone as well as on signs, tv, clothing, buildings, menus, etc. Re. max reading speed, It'll take more than just a few months to gain a familiarity that can begin to compare. Re. average reading speed, I feel like I'm pretty close.
I did about 2 hours yesterday and finished the incremental tutorial, which is really well done. It's still hard to read normal text on websites. It takes me about a minute to read an average line of a news story. Some of the letters are so easy I remembered them the very first time, others are super confusing - for example W, N/M, Q, Y, R.
Let me know if you guys are making progress. I love how quickly I learned the thing. Unsure too if I should really commit to it, but I can see how it'd be fun. And some words already turned into pictograms that I instantly recognize, for example "the" and "to".
That's just amazing Oo
It starts out as a kind of reading puzzle and by the end of it you can read freakin dots
By the way, I've been talking to the creator of Dotsies by twitter. He can read at 160wpm now and still climbing!
Did you do the whole thing? I tried switching my computer over to it, but the dots are hard to read at small scale.
Well, yes. So to speak "I accidentally the whole thing". But I agree, reading small fonts like when you have a website translated with their bookmarklet is still to hard for me.
I also tried coding with that stuff. How cool would that look :) But anything below 30pt font takes me way to long to decipher. Still amazing for one day's work! When did you start with it?
Yeah, coding with it would be awesome. Not sure if I'm going to spend the time getting better at it or not, just because I have so much other stuff to work on right now.
If I WAS going to do it, I would pick some open source book, convert it to Dotsies, and read 500 words a day, keeping track of the time it took. Then I could graph it and get an idea after a week or so of how quickly it would be practical.
You can also convert Kindle to dotsies with a hack. I'd love to totally switch to it.
Funny, I had the same idea. Minus the charting that is. Converting a few books to the font would be a great way to get more into it. One could also expand the principle of that tutorial with books: Take an open source book, convert the first chapter to the mixed font, second chapter mixed font plus the first 6 characters converted, and so on. Would be a great learning tool for newcomers.
Anyway, please tell on the Kindle hack. I'd switch right away.
If you do convert to it and write a post up here in the community section, I'll promote it to the front page.
Alright, I posted something :) I didn't convert completely yet, though.
@160wpm Nice! Wonder how long that will take.
Edit: I'd prefer it not be promoted to the front page though.
Haven't had another nap, but I'm not tired anymore. I did eat some food, so I think maybe I'm not used to the larger amount of food I have to eat.
Still loving this whole thing and in total disbelief that it works.
First of all, I have reconsidered how I want to write this thing. My posts have been increasingly verbose and pointless, which takes too long to write and makes them boring to read. A book recently gave me good advice:
On the snake thing... I'm attempting to learn Python on the recommendations of XKCD and "How to become a hacker" by Eric Steven Raymond. The former is a web cartoon, which has given me more laughs than anything else in my life so far. The later is a fairly legit starting point for anyone looking to get into the culture.
I come from a C background, so the first contact with Python was jarring. The syntax is straightforward, so I skipped a few pages of the tutorial. I then wasted the next few hours trying to figure out how to compile my 'Hello World!' into an executable. If all this is Greek to you, I attempted the equivalent of trying to buy a free cookie. My first lesson was that I should go slow and complete the entire tutorial. Python is much more user-friendly than C, so I will have to unlearn many things.
The end. I have many things to say and, hopefully, many days to say them, so I will attempt to make my posts bite-sized.