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Austin hasn't filled out their bio yet. Writing off into the sunset...I build communities. Content + Community for @wpengine. Don't mess with Texas. Opinions reflect those of the highest bidder.
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What will SETT bring to building communities that other CMSes like WordPress, Drupal, and Joomla lack?

So I make my living building communities for startup companies. Currently, I'm building the community around WP Engine, which provides a managed hosting platform for WordPress (Heroku for WordPress). And naturally, the tool I'm using for most of what I do is WordPress, which has an incredible community of folks adding new things to in every day.  

With that background to provide the context out of the way, I'm curious to hear what problem you want to solve or what you want to accomplish with SETT. I see this at first as being something that has been done already, either with WordPress's P2 theme or even their new LiveBlog plugin.  

The reason I ask is twofold: I admire and respect your work and lifestyle, and I think that I'll learn something from the conversation with you, and then add something from my own experience that will make a difference as you build the product.  

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I think that WordPress is a really good product, and as a CMS is unequaled. My mom needed a static web site built, and I set her up with WordPress. And yes, there are a million plugins of various quality for it that can extend it to do much of what SETT can do.

What is different about SETT is that it was designed from the ground up specifically to foster communities. Stuff can be voted on, users can create their own posts with the same interface I use for blog posts (as you just did), replies are threaded, user accounts are persistent across all SETT blogs. If someone replies to you, you get notified. Users get recognized for their contributions.

That's what the plan was, and I really didn't know for sure if it would work or not, but it's actually exceeded my expectations at this point.

Compared to when my blog was on WordPress, I get 2.5x more posts/comments from users. The subjective quality is MUCH higher (could you ask a thoughtful question like you have on any other blogging platform?), and stats show that the average reply to a front page post is 65% longer than on WordPress. Less tangible-- as a blogger, I actually feel like I know who's reading my blog now and that I have a real connection to them. I'm very biased, of course, but I LOVE using SETT because I feel like I'm actually connecting with people. My readers prefer it 4:1 over WordPress.

So yeah, I just feel like it's time for something new, something focused 100% on bloggers, not something that also has to function as a CMS and make the compromises that entails.

Would love to hear from other readers, too, to share their experiences with SETT vs Wordpress.

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There is something to be said for custom ground-up work. If you have an eye for fashion, a fine custom tailored suit will be quite striking.

Twitter? Who would have thought a crippled messaging system would be a billionaire dollar business.

Caveat: Fully customizing Drupal or Wordpress may be a better option if you already have a lot of experiences there, but it will never be as lean and mean as the "Tailor Made" version.

SETT is a fine custom tailored suit. It's now going through some alterations because details do matter.

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SETT is now Live on Tynan.com

Sunday night was a scary time for me. After more than a year of work, SETT was ready to be deployed on Tynan.com. Well, maybe not "ready", exactly, but I was sick of putting it off. One line in a configuration file was changed, and my site switched from WordPress to SETT. And then... nothing happened. This was encouraging. The server didn't melt (although there is definitely some optimization that needs to be done), and importantly, most new visitors to my site didn't realize that anything was unusual. Eventually a few people realized that things were different and left feedback. Now, with five days of history, SETT is actually functioning as envisioned. It's an amazing experience to watch our baby start to crawl. Before I get into the details of what makes SETT unique and how to best use it, a quick disclaimer: this is alpha level software. Some parts of it are extremely polished and functional, while others are barely usable (person to person messaging, for example). Right now I don't need bug reports, because I already have a huge list of bugs that I'm working through. What I would LOVE from you is feedback on the experience. What is confusing? Where do you get stuck? What do you hate? What do you like? When designing SETT, we tried to consider the various groups of users that interact with a blog, and how to best serve them. For example, most of my readers are casual readers who stop by, read some posts, and leave. I want their experience to be nearly identical to any other blog-- there shouldn't be any new terminology or steps that they have to go through. The only changes we've made on the reader side are a wide content area for media like images and videos, well formatted text, and (for logged in users) indicators for whether or not they've read a post. For the average casual reader, this is a marginal improvement over a normal blog. Most of SETT's ambition lies with community members. I believe that until now, dedicated readers have been marginalized. I think that out of the 12,000 or so readers I have, there are hundreds who would love to be an important part of the community surrounding this blog, but aren't currently offered any tools to do so.  All SETT blogs have two sides to them: the front page and the community view. If you go back to the main page of this blog (click the header at the top) and then click "community" in the action bar, you'll see the posts that have been created by members of the community. This is similar to a forum or message board. Unlike a forum, I can promote any post to the front page with a single click. That's how Brian's post about Pina got there.  Besides creating original content, you can also vote things up or down. If you login or register for an account, you'll see voting arrows next to every post. Your votes help new readers see what this blog's best posts are, filter out spam, and indicate to me which community posts I should consider promoting to the front page. There's a lot more that's new with SETT, but I'll keep this short(ish) and let you explore. If you want to help SETT develop, please vote on stuff, leave comments, and create posts in the community section. Please do NOT link to this post (or blog) on any high traffic site just yet. My server can handle it until we implement caching.

How I Won't Fail

SETT, the new blogging platform that Todd and I are building, which this blog is running on, is going really well. With every project comes this fantasy that as soon as the world catches the briefest glimpse of your work, it will respond by showering you with praise and instantly recognizing that what you have created is important and the best possible solution to an significant problem. That's not actually what happens, though. Ever. For anyone.

Being at the beginning of the success curve is more like being a puppy dog. People like you and are interested in what you're doing, but you're not necessarily taken seriously and you stumble from time to time. That's where we are.

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